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September 12th, 2004


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03:51 pm - dashing around the net, looking for words that end in z
There is a form of poetry called the double abecedarian that sculpin mentioned, and enlightened me to the existance of. So the damn thing has been nagging at me, and I sat down this morning to put the first shreds on paper. (The link is stolen from her; page down a trifle as it is assignment #31.)

I have trouble with this sort of form mainly because I hold myself to not wanting to 'cheat' - in other words, there are some letters which are more difficult to find words for, and I don't want to bend the poem to use the easy cop-out ones. The word has to be the proper one for the poem AND fit the requirement of the form.

But I found myself having a good deal of trouble thinking of non-copoutish words that end in z. Fez, for example - a fine word, but a little out of place in a poem about meeting someone for the first time when neither of you make a habit of wearing them. Yeah, I could work it in somehow, desecribe something as looking like a fez, say - but that's what I mean by bending the poem to fit the form, and I don't want to do it.

So I thought I would look up a Scrabble website or two, find a list of words ending in z, and read it just to jog my memory. Z is a high worth, tricky kind of letter, so I expected to be able to find such a thing pretty easily. Nope.

I'm fine poem-wise, having had some more thoughts in the interim and also having encountered some useful and appropriate z-ended words in other lists that were available, but curious all the same. A couple of places refer to such a list, or promise it as content - but the links are broken or the pages are gone, or something.

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From:sculpin
Date:September 12th, 2004 12:16 pm (UTC)
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It's the line ending in J that gets me. I'll almost certainly wind up using "hajj".

Other z-ending words: jazz, waltz, whiz, quiz, quartz, fritz, ersatz, blitz, buzz, fuzz, chintz, hertz, Hafiz, Oz. (I guess you have all the z-ending words you need, but it's fun to come up with a list. And this flu is making me bored out of my skull.)
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From:sculpin
Date:September 12th, 2004 12:20 pm (UTC)
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And Leibniz! Okay, I stop now.
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From:cithra
Date:September 12th, 2004 12:22 pm (UTC)
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Leibniz is what I used, actually...
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From:sculpin
Date:September 12th, 2004 12:25 pm (UTC)
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You know, I sort of suspected that. Heh.
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From:cithra
Date:September 12th, 2004 12:34 pm (UTC)
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Heh indeed. "scion of Leibniz," even.

The first time through I didn't realize you had to END the lines with a particular letter, so the poem that partially wrote itself in my head the other night doesn't do that. And it is resisting spectacularly being buttoned into that particular tuxedo, so perhaps I shall back down and compose a merely singular abcedarian, if such a thing is allowable...
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From:sculpin
Date:September 12th, 2004 12:37 pm (UTC)
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*KNOCK KNOCK KNOCK* "Open up! It's the Form Police! We know you've got a single abecedarian in there!" Whoops, no, that's just delirium talking.
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From:cithra
Date:September 12th, 2004 12:21 pm (UTC)
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v isn't much fun either, and I'm still not happy with what I've got there...

Sorry to hear about the flu!
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From:sculpin
Date:September 12th, 2004 12:31 pm (UTC)
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Yeah, v is tough too. I was very happy to come up with "Chekhov". Aside from "Slav" I suspect you might be stuck with proper names -- Prokofiev, Tel Aviv, Markov (hey, more mathy goodness), l'cocktail Molotov, Los Bros Flying Karamazov. Or did you think of something I'm not coming up with?
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From:sculpin
Date:September 12th, 2004 12:35 pm (UTC)
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Or use abbreviations! Abbrev., v.v., c.v., tv, uv, and my favorite, q.v. Etc.

I love cheating. It's true.
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From:cithra
Date:September 12th, 2004 12:38 pm (UTC)
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I had used 'luv' which both is jarring and an abomination of orthography as far as my aestheic sense goes. Jarring because of both lack of appropriateness and because of tone. I think I've got too much gravitas of tone at the moment for the form, perhaps.

Perhaps if I go write down the other non-double bits I'll have more luck with this.
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From:sculpin
Date:September 12th, 2004 12:46 pm (UTC)
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I'm all for jarring, in its place, but I'd have my doubts about "luv" too.

I think you're right about the form asking for something less than gravitas. It's so awkward and chaotic that it seems to me to be suited less for grave, delicate interpersonal-type poems than it is for, say, exasperated poems about what the cat dragged in.
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From:sculpin
Date:September 12th, 2004 12:48 pm (UTC)
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On the other hand, if you can wring a grave, delicate interpersonal-type poem out of the form, more power to you.
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From:nihilistech
Date:September 12th, 2004 12:20 pm (UTC)
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So the Double abecedarian is just a more advanced form of the "obsessive high school crush poem" form, where in the names of crushed and crushee form the beginning and ending letters of each line?

With Z you do have the option of using various Hispanic surnames as possibilities. I'd think Q would present a bigger challenge.
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From:sculpin
Date:September 12th, 2004 12:24 pm (UTC)
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There's always "Iraq". My poem (only half-finished) is about a pro wrestling match, so I introduced a run-in from a wrestler called "Roman Esq." I am all in favor of cheating.

Shamefully, I was totally unfamiliar with the obsessive high school crush poem.
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From:nihilistech
Date:September 12th, 2004 12:33 pm (UTC)
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I don't know that there's any shame in not being familiar with the OHSC form, really.
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From:cithra
Date:September 12th, 2004 12:28 pm (UTC)
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Heh - so it would seem. I'd not encountered the OHSC form before, probably because of the whole 'j' problem mentioned above.

Q, yes, another hurdle.
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From:faintheart
Date:September 13th, 2004 11:27 am (UTC)
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http://www.onelook.com/ lets you do wildcard searches.

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